Obama-Biden heading for a November loss

On July 8th I predicted an obama-biden ticket would win 306 electoral votes:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/7/8/12553 4/6701

Since then there have been many changes that have forced me to change my opinion.  First, here is what I expect to happen:

1.  Obama-Biden to end up the Democratic convention leading McCain in the polls by 13:
Obama 52
McCain 39

2.  I expect McCain to pick a woman (Hutchinson of Texas) or some other non-white male.

(If somehow Colin Powell joins the ticket it is over for Obama. But I predict he won't do that because he truly supports Obama.
It would spell disaster for Obama because McCain would challenge him for the "change" label in a racial sense and give moderates who feel guilty voting against "the black guy" an easy out)

3.  After the Republican Convention, McCain-Hutchinson will take a slim lead:

McCain 46
Obama  44

4.  On the night of the 1st debate:

Obama 46
McCain 44
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Here are the problems that have changed an Obama victory into trouble (no order):

1.  Colorado has an  Affirmative Action ballot question that will force Obama to take a position:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008 -08-24-affirmative_N.htm

McCain will support preferences based on economic need
Obama will wind up supporting race based preferences and opposing the initiatives because of the leftwing in the Dem and black community.

This will cause defeat in Colorado and Virginia because of 3rd party ads.

2.  The U.S. will declare (rightfully) declare victory in Iraq and announce a timetable for withdrawal based on conditions on the ground.  This timetable will be essentially the Obama plan.

So McCain will present the same plan as Obama EXCEPT:

McCain will argue his surge plan led to victory,
while
Obama opposed the surge and didn't have a plan for victory but just wanted to withdraw.

Obama will lose badly in this area.

3.  McCain will own the energy issue with a combination plan of drilling, conservation, new technology, etc.  There isn't any rightwing group to offend, so McCain can offer anything he wants.  Obama has to keep the leftwing happy by trying to move the U.S.  away from oil drilling.  

This is a political loser.  He either flip flops for political gain or takes a political hit for being too "liberal".

4.  Obama and his people continue to resent Bill Clinton and HRC to a lesser extent.  By not retiring her (public) debt, consulting her with the VP pick, and making some grand gesture of apology for the primary, I expect the Clintons to sabotage this election in a passive-aggressive way.

I don't think it will happen this week at the conventions. I think they both will be great actors and read the lines the proper way.  But as the election grows near, this could all fall apart as people get ready to Cover their A's.

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That said, I support Obama-Biden 2008 and have solutions that can help Democrats sweep into office in 2009:

1.  Offer a mend it-don't end it update to Affirmative Action that says:

move away from racial preferences towards a needs based agenda in most areas.

still support affirmative action where there is a historical need for diversity in positions of power.  

So this would mean no race based AA for colleges, jobs, etc.
Instead use economics, life circumstances. (In most cases, the most neediest of minorities would still get a preference, but so too would many whites).

Also it would mean we would continue to have AA for top jobs like College Presidents, Leadership training programs, Military, government jobs, business loans/programs, etc.

Most people understand we need our leaders to truly represent the population in as many ways as possible, but they also understand that on a daily - everyday level, race doesn't factor into the lives of many people and it is unfair to have any preferences there.

We need to make it clear that we understand that America is a good place today, way better than it used to be, and is on path to eliminate the need for any race based remedies in the next generation.

2.  Support "real change" in a policy way.  I have advocated this from the primary. It can be on any number of topics.  Obama-Biden need  to break away from at least one of the Democratic constituency groups and show that they represent a "new" approach.

I propose

a.
 Universal School Vouchers.  Not means tested, but for everyone.  People who want to support the public schools can take their voucher there.  It can be coupled with INCREASED educational spending so people can't argue there would be a money drain on the public school.

b.

A real drilling plan that creates jobs in America.  Challenge the private sector to use American technology to do it safely.

This coupled with plans for Alternative Fuels would be good for America and good politics.

Set a goal for more energy production within 2 years, and Energy Independence in 8 years using alternatives and fossil fuels.

3.
Find a way to get the Clintons invested in an Obama victory.  They both like McCain and are comfortable with the Democrats controlling the Congress and a McCain White House.  

Obama should:
a. explicitly apologize to Bill for his supporters attack on Clinton.

b. work with Clinton on the above Affirmative Action policy
c. support HRC for Majority Leader in the Senate, and allow HRC to have veto over domestic policy.
d. allow Bill Clinton to have veto over foreign policy

I realize the word "veto" is strong, but Obama must convince both of them, that an Obama admin. would be a 3rd Clinton admin.

e. make it clear that Bill Clinton modernized the Dem party and America and made it possible for him to run/win.

3.  Strongly oppose the California Supreme Court decision, and strongly support traditional marriage.  Even though it appears to be popular in California, failure to stand up to this will lose key states.

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This next week won't matter one bit in November.
We're in trouble again on the Presidential level.
But we have plenty of time to offer America a positive agenda, and install Democrats as a true majority party.

Craig Farmer
making the word "liberal" safe again!

I know the above is tough medicine



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Oh its november already (2.00 / 2)

I thought it was still august.


by parahammer on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 05:52:36 AM EST

McCain-Powell (2.00 / 1)

72 years old and 71 years old.  Now there's a change ticket for you.


That's it, baby; let's go win this election!
by Beltway Dem on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 07:14:47 AM EST

It's going to be Romney (none / 0)

McCain will seriously consider a woman on the ticket. However, there just isn't many pro-life, qualified Republican women. Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Olympia Snow, Susan Collins, Christie Todd Whitman are all pro-choice Republicans. Condoleeza Rice probably won't be chosen because she'll want to finish her job as Secretary of State. Sarah Palin is too inexperienced and has scandal problems. Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina are not qualified to be vice president. Moreover, Republicans are reluctant to have a woman on the national ticket. That's why McCain will probably pick Romney. Pawlenty is probably out because McCain doesn't have confidence that he could go toe-to-toe with Biden in a debate.

It's going to be a tough race. A Romney pick may put Michigan in the McCain column. That's why Obama supporters have to get to work. They can play around again in November.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 12:43:20 PM EST
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Re: Obama-Biden heading for a November loss (2.00 / 2)

Yellow dog, you are no yellow dog democrat.   Shame on you.  When will you be a real democrat????


by Spanky on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 07:28:23 AM EST

Re: Obama-Biden heading for a November loss (2.00 / 2)

You are a troll!  With no credibility

Please join the McCain Campaign and stop pretending to support party.  

Give the Clintons veto power over all of his decisions. That will work since they are such great liberals...  

They blew their chance for a lasting legacy through the Presidency.  Can she do a better job than Harry Reid and Redeem herself perhaps.  Can she be a great justice certainly possible.

The Clintons are not owed anything they got themselves into this mess.  Bill Statements and Hillary continuing when all was lost.


Maryland Democrat
by jproctor on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 07:32:54 AM EST

Re: Obama-Biden heading for a November loss (none / 0)

Colin Powell and it's over?  HA HA!  He adds nthing to the McCain ticket!

I like your post convention prediction, though!  Fun!

Unfortunately, none of your predictions will come true... If McCain picks a woman, he's signaling that his campaign is in bad shape and in need of something dramatic....


It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)
by LordMike on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 07:42:18 AM EST

Re: Obama-Biden heading for a November loss (none / 0)

I'd like to see him try to pick Condi.

Like shooting fish in a barrel!


by phillyandcheese on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 07:50:23 AM EST
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Thanks for the news. (2.00 / 1)

Now go away.


ооо
by Mumphrey on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:03:32 AM EST

Sure, school vouchers (2.00 / 1)

is the way for Obama to win. You sound like a Republican.

Hutchinson is against outlawing abortion, that simply won't do for conservative Republicans. Plus, you don't base any numbers on polling. There are plenty of polls out there showing women would be skeptical of a Republican woman VP, and very few would be more likely to vote for John McCain because of it.


by Lolis on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:13:13 AM EST

I can't find it (none / 0)

I can't find it!  Where's the shot across the bow at gay rights?  Where's the railing against the radical homosexual agenda??

Oh no.

yellowdem1129's been gotten BY THE GAYS!  He warned us this would happen if we let those damn gays get married!  Why, oh why didn't we listen?


Proud member of the Wikipedia Generation of American politics
by BishopRook on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:15:10 AM EST

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by IowaMike on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:40:25 AM EST

It Just Wouldn't Be a YELLOWDOGDEM1129 Diary ... (2.00 / 1)

Strongly oppose the California Supreme Court decision, and strongly support traditional marriage.

... if it didn't have at least one I SUPPORT ANTI-GAY DISCRIMINATION tidbit in it.


by Collideascope on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:41:02 AM EST

Re: Obama-Biden heading for a November loss (1.50 / 2)

T is for the way you Take the Truth
R is for the way Recoil at Plouffe
O is for Obama, and the Clinton Drama
L is for the Lying
Lies to try to disguise with

Stats that seem to miss the basic fact
Polls that seem to point to victory for Barack
If B-O is doomses
why is it that he never loses, when the voters chooses
Why don't you just troll away!

Not sure If I kept this to the tune, but I tried, dammit


Fight the Smears!
by Lettuce on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:53:50 AM EST

Beneath even you (2.00 / 1)

Your predictions even a few days in advance have never been correct, yellowdem1129, so what makes you think you can predict the general election before either convention?


The pebbles have voted and the avalanche has begun.

President-Elect "That One"

by Dracomicron on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 09:59:24 AM EST

DLC (none / 0)

Harold Ford would be proud.


by esconded on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 10:04:22 AM EST

Re: Obama-Biden heading for a November loss (2.00 / 1)

Where you one of those people who thought Clinton had a mortal lock on the nomination?  All of the wannabe Nostradami should give it a rest.


by IncognitoErgoSum on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 10:14:49 AM EST

Re: Obama-Biden heading for a November loss (2.00 / 3)

Yellow,

Do you still believe that gay marriage has caused global warming?

Just wondering...


"Can We Build It? Yes We Can!" - Bob the Builder
by Stipes on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 10:30:50 AM EST

Ahah! *There's* the Homophobia! (2.00 / 1)

3.  Strongly oppose the California Supreme Court decision, and strongly support traditional marriage.  Even though it appears to be popular in California, failure to stand up to this will lose key states.

I almost missed it, since you snuck in at the very end.  But I knew it had to be there somewhere!  Thanks for being consistent!


by Dreorg on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:02:03 AM EST

Re: Ahah! *There's* the Homophobia! (2.00 / 1)

The diarist has openly admitted in multiple diaries that he opposes gay rights in general.

Gay people?
Rights?


by Collideascope on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:11:54 AM EST
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Re: Ahah! *There's* the Homophobia! (2.00 / 1)

They're icky.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:24:06 AM EST
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Re: Obama-Biden heading for a November loss (none / 0)

I can't believe you ever actually said Obama would win. That would have been the first and last time.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:23:36 AM EST

Re: Obama-Biden heading for a November loss (none / 0)

Ok, let me get this clear, Hutchinson from Texas will swing the election for McCain? If this isn't snark then I have to ask -- what are you smoking?


by LionelEHutz on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 11:40:34 AM EST

You seem (none / 0)

concerned.


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 12:12:40 PM EST

Some Troubling Signs (2.00 / 1)

Republicans are turning Obama into Dukakis and there is a rift between Clinton supporters and Obama. Although the majority of voters believe that Biden was a good choice for Obama, the pick didn't generate excitement and according to a CNN poll has actually caused a net decrease in support for Obama.

But right now the race is still a toss up. This is a change election and if Obama can give a sense to the voters who he is, he should pick up in the polls. Obama has more up potential than McCain, but he also has more down potential than McCain, too.

We're going to have to work hard to get Obama elected.


Dizzy Zzyzzy
by Zzyzzy on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 12:31:30 PM EST

No Biden bump visible till now (none / 0)

It seems at least in the polls that have been released, VP bump is largely missing. Gallup again has the race at 45%. I wonder if this is just a sign of the ``divided party'' or are other factors also at work.

Any ideas?


by ann0nymous on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 01:49:32 PM EST

Re: Obama-Biden heading for a November loss (none / 0)

You realise of course, that Senate Democratic Caucus selects the Majority Leader, not the President? Also, not to mention the fact that it is un-Consitutional and obviously wrong on so many other levels, publicly allowing anyone other then the President to have a veto on Laws would be political suicide, if that were the case, why not drop out and let Hilary run herself?

I feel however, that I may have wasted too much time responding to the infantile rantings of someone who probably outlined this brilliant policy proposal in crayon anyway.


by JENKINS on Mon Aug 25, 2008 at 04:33:45 PM EST


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