MyDD :: Looks Like It's Biden

Looks Like It's Biden

by rayj, Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:46:28 PM EST

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archive s/2008/08/wait_til_americ/

Sigh. Biden's ok, I guess. He's better than Tim Kaine, Evan Bayh or freakin' Chet Edwards, but he's still mediocre. Why all the suspense though? If Obama had announced a few days ago, he'd be able to build the media wave into the weekend. How odd.

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Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

Who would you like it to be?

by soyousay on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:48:49 PM EST

Not Biden (none / 0)

Biden is the most boring speaker in the world. Now, with Obama's "hope and change" monologue wearing thin he needed someone that could campaign tough against the Republicans. That sinking feeling continues...

by MediaFreeze on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:58:55 PM EST
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Re: Not Biden (2.00 / 2)

It's a tough week to be a McCain supporter, isn't it? That sinking feeling you have is of your preferred candidate being exposed as an out-of-touch old rich guy who doesn't understand the number one issue of importance to Americans.

Biden would balance the ticket well, combining a face that doesn't need extensive introduction with an attack-dog approach to republicans that'll serve well on the stump and in the VP debate. The choice of Biden would definitely be a signal of reassurance, as voters will know that an experienced foreign-policy hand and a solid Democrat is in Washington should events require him to step into the presidency.

It's one way to go, and not a bad choice. Obama had a lot of options, and most of them were pretty good; we'll just have to see which one he chose.

"This victory alone is not the change we seek -- it is only the chance for us to make that change." -- Nov. 4, 2008

by BobzCat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:08:50 PM EST
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Re: Not Biden (2.00 / 1)

Don't forget - Biden only has one house.

by rfahey22 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:18:43 PM EST
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Re: Not Biden (none / 0)

You pegged me wrong; I'm not a McCain supporter. I don't have a dog in the fight. Both candidates carry too much baggage IMO. You've got a stinking elitist republican and you got a guy who hangs with people that IMO are radicals...at least use to hang with them.

by soyousay on Sat Aug 23, 2008 at 02:44:43 PM EST
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Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

Clemons provides no evidence for that assertion. We'll see.

by rfahey22 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:50:33 PM EST

Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

I'll stick to Evan Bayh.

Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.

by lori on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:51:22 PM EST

Re: Looks Like It's Biden (2.00 / 0)

I read on a blog that a planned Keynote Preview planned by Mark Warner has been "postponed". Warmer runs a well-olied machine, so that is not like him.

by RandyMI on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:51:28 PM EST

Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

Nope.

by Jerome Armstrong on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:31:48 PM EST
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Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

"Nope, it isn't Warner" or "Nope, something is up"?

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:39:13 PM EST
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Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

Warner would be sweet. I'm OK with Biden too.

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:51:41 PM EST
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Re: Looks Like It's Biden (2.00 / 3)

pick a bullshit card..
any bullshit card...
put in back in the deck.
Now shuffle the deck..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i48BP1PUo FI

"harlequin speech of suicide, demanding instantaneous lobotomy"

by nogo postal on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:53:22 PM EST

Burp! (none / 0)

Ooops, that was more than just gas. Excuse me for a bit...

"Can We Build It? Yes We Can!" - Bob the Builder

by Stipes on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 05:55:59 PM EST

Re: Looks Like It's Biden (2.00 / 1)

Obama must be enjoying this.

by Skaje on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:03:22 PM EST

Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

I really wish I could be a fly on the wall at Obama HQ. They're laughing their asses off.

And they've shown that they can still play the media, even when the media is trying to handicap them...

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by BishopRook on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:07:54 PM EST
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Biden's great: clean, well-spoken..... (none / 0)

Just hold your breath, and wait for the first gaffe from mouth almighty.

If it is indeed Biden, this will be the most ordinary and unexciting choice since John Edwards.

by BJJ Fighter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:09:39 PM EST

Re: Biden's great: clean, well-spoken..... (none / 0)

You'd say that about anyone whose name isn't Hillary. That kinda skews your perspective, dontcha think?

And Biden, while not without his flaws, has been a pretty solid Democrat for a long time. He's got a compelling story, a strong intellect, a good sense of humor, and credentials worthy of respect, not your comfortably anonymous derision.

"This victory alone is not the change we seek -- it is only the chance for us to make that change." -- Nov. 4, 2008

by BobzCat on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:19:46 PM EST
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Re: Biden's great: clean, well-spoken..... (none / 0)

Strange you would say that. I've said in several comments over the last month that I think the choice of HRC as Obama's VP would be a mistake.

by BJJ Fighter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:24:33 PM EST
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Re: Biden's great: clean, well-spoken..... (none / 0)

Yeah, cause the problem with the Kerry/Edwards ticket was EDWARDS. Nobody could have righted that sinking ship.

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:19:56 PM EST
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and Edwards (none / 0)

was the most unexciting choice since, well, Lieberman, who was the most unexciting choice since Al Gore, who was only slightly less unexciting than Lloyd Bentsen, who was just as unexciting as Geraldine Ferraro and Walter Mondale.

Notice a pattern here?

The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.

by nrafter530 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:22:01 PM EST
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Re: and Edwards (none / 0)

I don't even know what people mean by "boring". Isn't Biden's whole supposed "problem" that he puts his foot in his mouth? What's boring about that?

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:27:03 PM EST
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People that talk that much just get to (none / 0)

be exhausting after a while, so boring is a good word. They dilute the impact of anything they have to say, because they go for quantity of words, and never stop talking. It reminds me of the salesman who has a prospect hooked, and tnen loses the sale because he keeps running his mouth.

by BJJ Fighter on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:32:08 PM EST
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Biden Boring? (none / 0)

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Ernst on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:23:46 PM EST
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Biden is who I hope for (2.00 / 1)

but your diary moved my HopeMeter not a whit.

by Neef on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:11:23 PM EST

ABH n/t (none / 0)

by parahammer on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:12:23 PM EST

Re: Looks Like It's Biden (2.00 / 1)

Wonder if Ambinder actually called something correctly with his guess about charter flights?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/EJA86 3

A flight from Midway to New Castle, DE... to pick someone up? Who knows? No other flights from anywhere in and around Chicago to anywhere in and around Delaware... or vice versa. Just this charter.

I wouldn't be disappointed with Biden in the least. If anything, I think he's made his stock rise in the last week by being funny and personable. The "homes" situation only makes it even more likely, since Biden is still pretty poor by Senate standards.

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:18:32 PM EST

Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

Yglesias agrees.

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:47:26 PM EST
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Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

It would be pretty weird at this point if it wasn't Biden. I'd rather it not be but I'm resigned to listen to him go on at length about some really weird shit as well as some sensible stuff and good attacks at McCain.

by Thaddeus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:36:17 PM EST
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Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

"personable. The "homes" situation only makes it even more likely, since Biden is still pretty poor by Senate standards"

Yup....

On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....

by WashStateBlue on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:22:42 PM EST

Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

For what it's worth, Clemons has now updated his site and backed off slightly, in light of these Obama-Bayh bumper stickers. It sounds like he doesn't have as much information as he initially made it appear.

by rfahey22 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:33:38 PM EST

Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

If those stickers made him bounce off, he has NO frickin' clue. Those are colossally fake.

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:38:30 PM EST
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Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

Yeah, I think he just wanted to scoop everyone by making an educated guess.

by rfahey22 on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:42:35 PM EST
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Re: Looks Like It's Biden (none / 0)

Didn't they do that with Kerry too? I think they had signs, bumper stickers, and backdrops printed with four different options. The NY Post (who else?) even jumped the gun and ran a Kerry/Gephardt headline, after sneaking a peek at one of the fakes.

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 06:58:41 PM EST
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because he was aiming for anti-climax? (none / 0)

by Thaddeus on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 07:11:33 PM EST

okaish pick (none / 0)

I mean considering the opposition Bayh, Edwards and Kaine, he seems definitely a plus. Although Sebelius and Richardson could have been nice picks.

I do not quite see how Biden helps win any particular state.
At least he will prove to be a good attack dog. Which tells me that Obama should have announced Biden long time back. But then what do I know?

What I find really interesting about this pick is that after using the whole primary trying to paint Clintons as racists, Obama picked up a person who has actually made really racially sensitive remarks. Now if McCain picks Jindal, then the republicans can call the Dem ticket racist (remember ``the senator from Punjab'' memo).

by ann0nymous on Fri Aug 22, 2008 at 10:44:44 PM EST

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