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Re: Homophobes are just (2.00 / 4)

I actually disagree with you here, sricki.
I believe that one can be a Democrat and not hold all the beliefs of the Platform.

I know o'plenty Democrats who are racists, homophobes and/or Bible Thumpers to the nth degree. Just as I know Republicans who are Pro-Choice, Pro-Gun Control and anti-Bible Thumping.

There are folks from all walks in both Parties.

Now, that having been said.....I believe that said racists, homophobes and other such cretins are, well, cretins....they just might happen to be Democratic cretins.


by Kysen on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:26:49 PM EST
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You're right, yellowdem may vote (2.00 / 5)

Democratic. But gay rights is a pretty bad issue to have a GOP mindset on... Really nauseating.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:29:57 PM EST
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Re: You're right, yellowdem may vote (2.00 / 3)

yep - it is kinda gross.

even our PM (who is conservative) wouldn't dare reopen this issue.  


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:36:31 PM EST
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Re: You're right, yellowdem may vote (1.00 / 2)

This is not the Gay Rights party.  People can have differing opinions without being homophobes, and your labelling them as such is very counterproductive.  But then, I've come to expect that from you.

I knew a man who explained his position on gay marriage thus:  Marriage is a hetero cultural institution.  Heteros have a right to preserve their culture just as gays, jews, blacks, women, communists, weedheads and sports-buffs do.

If gays want to have their own marriage this is fine, but they should give it a different name.  (Which is fine with me, as long as legally they are extended the same rights as heteros.)

Why can't gays, he posited, invent their own institution and have it adopted by the state?  Why must they insist on being allowed to infringe on a hetero cultural institution?

He had a point.  Heterosexuals invented a cultural institution which was adopted by the state.

Gays should do the same.

p.s.  Before you respond, consider that we have MANY exclusive institutions and legal rights extended to groups for various reasons, including race (indian casinos) sex (womens toilets, no men allowed) profession (unions, etc) and the like.


I'm for a timeline on Iraq, public funding of elections, women's reproductive rights, gun restrictions and universal suffrage. So why should I vote for Obama?
by William Cooper on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 07:00:04 AM EST
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Re: You're right, yellowdem may vote (1.00 / 2)

"But then, I've come to expect that from you."

That comment was for sricki, not canadian gal.


I'm for a timeline on Iraq, public funding of elections, women's reproductive rights, gun restrictions and universal suffrage. So why should I vote for Obama?
by William Cooper on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 07:01:23 AM EST
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its kind of a mind-f%$k isn't it? (2.00 / 2)

partisanship i mean.  in canada, its less so since MP's have to vote along party lines.  but there are so many more shades of grey in your system.

hawkish-liberals
conservative-doves

it really blows my mind sometimes.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 10:33:32 PM EST
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