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Re: A Sad Day (2.00 / 6)

It's the Fourth of July, when the Founding Fathers chose to stand on principle and revolt, rather than make more political compromises with King George.

Surely today it is appropriate to hold our nominee to the principles this nation was founded on?


by souvarine on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 02:31:47 PM EST

hold our nominee to the principles (2.00 / 4)

While giving McBush a free pass and carrying his dirty water.


by Beren on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 02:33:56 PM EST
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Re: A Sad Day (2.00 / 5)

Yeah, I get it....After 139 FISA diaries I get it...Just thought today could be more of a "Let's Go Get 'Em Barack" day....


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 02:34:44 PM EST
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Re: A Sad Day (2.00 / 3)

It is more than just FISA. Some of us are Democrats for a reason, you know.


by souvarine on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 02:40:38 PM EST
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Re: A Sad Day (2.00 / 4)

I understand people have legitimate concerns about Obama as do I.  I never once thought he and I would have the exact same views on everything.  However, I still believe he is determined to chart a new course for our country including fixing the economy, creating more jobs, getting out of Iraq, pushing for universal healthcare, better schools, etc.  And I am excited about that especially having endured the last 7+ with Dubya...I'm also excited our country has taken a huge step in believing a woman and AA are qualified to lead our country, most underestimate what we, as a country, accomplished during the primary season.  Was their still sexism and racism? Hell yes, but just the mere fact that an AA and a woman were the last two standing on the Democratic side speaks volumes, at least it does to me.


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 02:48:20 PM EST
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Re: A Sad Day (2.00 / 10)

We're Democrats because we're not republicans. People spend more time bashing Obama than they bother with McCain, and they do it with far more vitriol. Our nominee is not "King George," nor do we need to "revolt" against our own party because of freaking FISA.

And when I see the same Obama-haters posting the same comments, the same diaries, and giving the same TRs to us, it makes it quite ridiculous to couch their actions in such sacred historical context. People without credibility aren't afforded such deference.

This is nothing more than a bunch of people trying turn our election into a grand game of I-told-you-so, the real facts or stakes be damned.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 03:00:18 PM EST
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Re: A Sad Day (2.00 / 4)

Interestingly, McCain is for the extension of Bush's administration, which thus far has been the closest thing to fascism in a long time, if not ever.  I think there are legitimate concerns by our posters but then the other "supporters" grasp on to that to implement repub attack plans about flip flops, destroying the constitution, general denigration of Obama, and whispers of not voting or supporting Obama.

July 4th, the date commemorating the revolt against a tyranical government and he we are bashing the guy who represents our desire to rid the country of our present day tyranny.


by KLRinLA on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 04:05:12 PM EST
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Re: A Sad Day (2.00 / 3)

and 412 whiny diaries sobbing about the rec list is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooo meaningful and helpful...


by zerosumgame on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 02:55:28 PM EST
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Re: A Sad Day (2.00 / 5)

Have a great 4th of July


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 02:56:58 PM EST
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I'll never forgive him for his comment that (none / 0)

abortion should be illegal for a woman who suffers from mental distress! He should ask Bill Frist to be his VP!


by suzieg on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 06:22:28 AM EST
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Re: I'll never forgive him for his comment that (2.00 / 2)

So go vote for McCain.  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 08:01:25 AM EST
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Re: A Sad Day (2.00 / 3)

yeah, all the while framing it as if Obama drafted this legislation.  Oddly, in all o fthese diaries I rarely see anyone pointing out all of the other House members who let this crap get to the Senate.  Barack will hopefully work with dodd and others to strip the immunity like he said.  I am willing to wait and see waht he does before I throw him and the election in the fire.  Let's also hold all the others accountable for their actions, who should bear most of the blame as oppossed to trashing Obama

On the other hand I have no problem with the FISA group on Obama's website talling him what they want.  BUt to condemn him before his vote and work to strip the immunity is a little extreme in my opinion.


by KLRinLA on Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 02:42:35 PM EST
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You're that naive to believe that he'll try to (1.50 / 2)

cut out the tel com immunity out of the bill? It's a done deal, he's voting for it! His response was only to quiet the dissent that is being reported in the media and makes him look bad! The man has shown over and over again that he has no principles!


by suzieg on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 06:24:49 AM EST
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Re: You're that naive to believe that he'll try to (2.00 / 1)

Bullshit...you see what you want to see...


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 01:38:26 PM EST
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Re: A Sad Day (2.00 / 1)

Revolt against McCain or Bush not OUR candidate.


by Politicalslave on Sat Jul 05, 2008 at 05:07:20 AM EST
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